Inspiration

[a_ahmed]

Some aero inspiration, thought these were neat.

[a_ahmed]

Just invert

[a_ahmed]

[a_ahmed]

Well lookey a 240:

[DuckyD]

Is it normal that he has no roof?
Like it will be welded back together without loss of structural integrity?

[a_ahmed]

Alot of peeps cut the roof when doing a cage, not all though. Also it's not that significant if you have a cage, plus x2 on people who run a carbon roof (kognition, these two guys in the UK with s13s), same idea, caged.

[AceInHole]

You just had to post a bunch of shots of the Hoops car that I get to run against next week....

He's got a different wing now though:

[WilloW]

A_ahmed, here's some eye candy for you http://www.mulsannescorner.com/. Every time I'm on that site it's really easy for me to dream about cutting up the car and do stupid things to it.

[a_ahmed]

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[Def]

I still don't understand why S chassis guys are so into mounting wings to the car frame when they make maybe a couple hundred pounds of downforce max.

[a_ahmed]

^maybe cause they are trying to extract every ounce possible?

PJ I could be wrong but it looks like the same wing but with different mounts, I mean same foil shape/size (no?) but with different mounts

[Matt93SE]

Force is force. It doesn't matter whether its pushing down with 300lb on the trunklid or the bumper or the frame or whatever. 300lb is still 300lb. The only difference would be if the turnklid flexes enough to change the AOA of the wing, which would affect downforce numbers to some minute extent. Even then, it would really only affect it at very high speeds when you want to limit the amount of downforce anyway.

[Def]

Force is force. It doesn't matter whether its pushing down with 300lb on the trunklid or the bumper or the frame or whatever. 300lb is still 300lb. The only difference would be if the turnklid flexes enough to change the AOA of the wing, which would affect downforce numbers to some minute extent. Even then, it would really only affect it at very high speeds when you want to limit the amount of downforce anyway.

Exactly. The moment generated from backswept wing mounts will only serve to reduce the AoA of the wing, which is what you WANT at max downforce(end of a straight, no real traction needed).

Even if the trunk is severely bending about a 1/4" front to back, I doubt it'd make much of a difference. Yet any little bit you reduce the AoA is going to reduce drag.

The engineer inside of me gets angry when people go through such trouble to make their car slower.

[racepar1]

Is it normal that he has no roof?
Like it will be welded back together without loss of structural integrity?

That's the kognition design s-14, he has a carbon fiber roof. Also that's an old picture, he makes his own uber badass wings now.

I still don't understand why S chassis guys are so into mounting wings to the car frame when they make maybe a couple hundred pounds of downforce max.

Because that is the "proper" way to do it. It makes little difference, but why not on a track only car? Besides it looks way more hardcore.

[AceInHole]

I like my trunk mounted wing. I think it looks pretty badass with the trunk open and the wing way up in the air. The only reason I'd change it would be if the fiberglass trunk lid isn't structural enough to support the wing, and in that case I'd probably just go to the rear fenders right beside the edge of the trunk lid.