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  • Baffled oil pan for KA

    Originally posted by ecugrad
    No real good section to put this, so I am NA, so I'll put it here. My first, and only, track event in my S14 I noticed something that disturbed me. A severe drop in oil pressure (~20 psi) on right hand turns. Overfilling the sump by 1 quart helped alot but it still concerns me. I have yet to find a company making a baffled oil pan for a KA, so I have thought about doing it myself. I have a welder and I know its not rocket science but has anyone up here fabbed one up? Thanks!
    I've actually been thinking about modifying a stock pan. What I'd like to do is section the pan like the SR and possibly run the Greddy lower section, but still haven't bothered to check the pickup locations. It shouldn't be too costly to have a flange made and welded to the stock pan to do something like this, I think. I'm wondering if a crank scraper and windage tray would help out with oiling, though. I was looking into a www.crank-scrapers.com setup.

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    Baffled oil pan for KA

    No real good section to put this, so I am NA, so I'll put it here. My first, and only, track event in my S14 I noticed something that disturbed me. A severe drop in oil pressure (~20 psi) on right hand turns. Overfilling the sump by 1 quart helped alot but it still concerns me. I have yet to find a company making a baffled oil pan for a KA, so I have thought about doing it myself. I have a welder and I know its not rocket science but has anyone up here fabbed one up? Thanks!

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    • #3
      I have been watching that thread as well. I have talked with Kevin before and their stuff is top notch. I may shoot him an email and ask.

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      • #4
        Monty ran Ishihara stuff on his SR and has nothing but good things to say from what I heard.
        Between rides...unless you count a WD21...

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        • #5
          Xcessive now has a cast aluminum oil pain for the KA that allows you to bolt on an SR20 lower sump.

          http://www.xcessivemanufacturing.com...pid=145&step=4









          The Tomei lower pan is baffled

          The Nerd shall inherit the podium for knowledge is power.

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          • #6
            $335 for that + $350-400 for a GReddy pan, and you aren't getting too far from a dry sump setup w/a used pump, IIRC.

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            • #7
              Has anyone ever seen a non-ghetto dry sump setup on a KA for under $1000?

              New ARE oil pans are $400. Even if you get used the plumbing, reservoirs, pumps, oil cooler, remote filter, custom brackets would cost more than $600 wouldn't it?
              Last edited by Umai Kakudo; 01-22-2009, 02:02 PM.
              The Nerd shall inherit the podium for knowledge is power.

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              • #8
                In other news - OBX now makes Dry Sump Tanks available Buy It Now on eBay.

                http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-A...Q5fAccessories

                The apocalypse is near. LOL.
                The Nerd shall inherit the podium for knowledge is power.

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                • #9
                  Moroso now has a lower pan for the SR20 available.

                  http://www.moroso.com/catalog/catego...?catcode=11995 (Scroll Down)

                  Part No:20975
                  Description/Application: Oil Pan, Aluminum, Nissan, SR20 RWD
                  Capacity: 4 3/4 Qt.





                  Engine Application: Nissan, SR20-Rear Wheel Drive

                  * Manufactured from aircraft aluminum
                  * Dual internal baffling insures oil control not present in an OE oil Pan
                  * Bolt-in upgrade replaces OEM steel pan
                  * Use Stock Oil Pump & Pickup
                  * ¼" aluminum rail
                  * Metric studs and nuts included
                  * Oil Temperature provision
                  * Magnetic drain plug included
                  The Nerd shall inherit the podium for knowledge is power.

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                  • #10
                    I have a dry sump system on my 3 valve KA racing motor. Pan and pump are from Gary Armstrong at ARE, tank is Moroso. It works quite well.

                    However, I raced a 240Z for five years with a stock oil pump and a Nissan Motorsports pan. It had kickouts for extra oil, windage tray and trap doors. It worked fine.

                    If I had a combo street/track car I would call Gary at ARE and see what he could do to modify a OEM pan and keep the wet sump. Gary has bent over backwards to help me with some serious oiling problems. Will it be cheap? I just don't know.

                    One other source is Joe Harlan at Top Tech Motorsports in Oregon City, Oregon. I don't know him personally but we e-mailed a few times and I believe he told me he was racing on the stock S13 3 valve oiling system with a modified pan.

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                    • #11
                      Joe is a great asset to have, of course...it doesn't hurt that he's local.=)

                      Originally posted by JRS View Post
                      I have a dry sump system on my 3 valve KA racing motor. Pan and pump are from Gary Armstrong at ARE, tank is Moroso. It works quite well.

                      However, I raced a 240Z for five years with a stock oil pump and a Nissan Motorsports pan. It had kickouts for extra oil, windage tray and trap doors. It worked fine.

                      If I had a combo street/track car I would call Gary at ARE and see what he could do to modify a OEM pan and keep the wet sump. Gary has bent over backwards to help me with some serious oiling problems. Will it be cheap? I just don't know.

                      One other source is Joe Harlan at Top Tech Motorsports in Oregon City, Oregon. I don't know him personally but we e-mailed a few times and I believe he told me he was racing on the stock S13 3 valve oiling system with a modified pan.
                      Between rides...unless you count a WD21...

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                      • #12
                        there was a thread on ka-t.org, about one of the member's being in contact with moroso about getting a ka24 pan made with a bigger sump capacity, but anything goes with this sort of hearsay. i'd say it's possible since moroso just came out with their sr20 pan, but time span is another thing.
                        - Phil
                        1995 240sx | KA24DE-T 309whp, 368lb-ft

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                        • #13
                          I made my own.




                          Worked well. It was baffled and I put in crank scrapers and windage tray.

                          Some might think it is ghetto, but it was fine for a race car and I think it only ended up costing me a couple hundred bucks. It held around 7 quarts.
                          Tristan Smith
                          T-Rex Racing
                          SCCA ITR 300zx #56
                          Former SCCA ITA 240sx #56
                          IMSA RS 1978 Datsun 200sx #58

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                          • #14
                            more pictures please?

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                            • #15
                              That's the only picture I have of the pan. I recently sold the motor.

                              But in short, go buy a 40$ chevy claimer pan kit from a circle track supply store. In it you get some baffles, and an oil plug, as well as some sheet metal to use. You will have to do some cutting, fitting, modifying, but it's doable. Find/pay some one to weld it up.

                              We cut out the existing baffles in the stock pan, and once we had the new sheet metal in place, welded the stock baffles back in.
                              It takes some fabricating, but you don't have to spend a grand to get that, just some time and sweat equity.

                              But you won't be able to use your AC compressoer with this set up, so keep that in mind.
                              Last edited by T-Rex; 03-30-2009, 03:19 PM.
                              Tristan Smith
                              T-Rex Racing
                              SCCA ITR 300zx #56
                              Former SCCA ITA 240sx #56
                              IMSA RS 1978 Datsun 200sx #58

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