Interesting Ball Joint Design

[Colorado S14]

I was reading an article on the Mini Clubman suspension and they use an inverse ball joint up front on the upright which got me thinking that this could be a solution for us potentially.....

[Tower240sx]

I like that...
Hmmm

[Def]

How does this help an s chassis? It would raise the pivot as things sit (bad). I suppose you can space.the balljoint body down, but.why not just move the outer pivot down in the first place?

[Colorado S14]

I just was thinking that could provide what could be an alternative to other roll center options, by machining/welding the stock knuckle to accept this ball joint and then using spacers to move the joint and correct for roll center we could have an adjustable option. Nothing inherently better just another idea.

Def I do agree that as it sits it could raise the pivot and be counter-productive. What if we built a new lower control arm which accepted that ball joint but inverted it to use with the factory knuckle.

Quick Paint time...

[Tower240sx]

Def I do agree that as it sits it could raise the pivot and be counter-productive. What if we built a new lower control arm which accepted that ball joint but inverted it to use with the factory knuckle.

this ^^^


Or new knuckles and space it down from the knuckle

[Beejis60]

That BJ design is exactly how honduhs are, granted they're double wishbone fronts.

[Def]

I just was thinking that could provide what could be an alternative to other roll center options, by machining/welding the stock knuckle to accept this ball joint and then using spacers to move the joint and correct for roll center we could have an adjustable option. Nothing inherently better just another idea.

Def I do agree that as it sits it could raise the pivot and be counter-productive. What if we built a new lower control arm which accepted that ball joint but inverted it to use with the factory knuckle.

Quick Paint time...

1. I doubt the BJ taper or height would work for us

2. Moving the balljoint housing around does nothing to correct for roll center. You want to move the BJ *PIVOT* relative to the hub. The arm itself is immaterial.